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Interview: Performance artist Kembra Pfaler

We chat about this year’s Meltdown, Future Feminism and going for a wee in Starbucks

Dora Mortimer

Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:55:11 GMT | Updated today

DIVA: What can we expect from you at Meltdown?

 

Kembra Pfaler: It's the first time 'The Voluptuous Horror of Karen Black' have played in London. My band is essentially a basic meat and potatoes rock and roll band. We activate our props and sculptures and have a performance element, which makes us a little more transgressive. I'm from Los Angeles and grew up seeing the first wave of punk rock like Lydia Lunch, The Screamers, Johanna Went and X. I wanted to start something and I knew it had to be different - thus Karen Black was born.

 

Who would be on your bill if you were curating Meltdown?

 

Antony and I have similar taste. I think he's one of the most important artists alive today, a visionary. He invites us all to wonder what we're doing here. Antony is very provocative and serious in the gentlest way. I like a lot of the same artists as him but also singers like Dionne Warwick and Burt Bacharach and the valley of the dolls soundtrack. I have a background in film and I love beach movies and sixties culture so I'd bring in that psycho-tronic element.

 

You're a founder of Future Feminism. What's your manifesto?

 

The whole world is changing and art and culture are changing. I remember reading books by Philip K. Dick, who was always threatening 'the future will be here soon!' The future is here now. Technology is unrecognisable from ten years ago. Feminism in New York City is a very uncool thing. The women's movement has been ignored. The future is now and we're all living in this surreal state of quasi-destructive modernism. There has to be a change in the way we think as well as the way we act and it should be through feminism and female thought. We want to broaden feminism. It shouldn't just be for the western world. Feminism should be activated in countries like Afghanistan where women are in a state of danger.

 

How important are art and culture in working through issues of politics and gender?

 

Art heals. Art is the opposite of war. Creativity is one of the nice things we can share as humans. I could have grown up to be a language instructor and that might've been equally helpful. But art is important in making the world a more beautiful place. I'm not interested in being a superstar; I'm interested in being an artist.

 

Do you court a cult following?

 

I don't really believe in followers, I don't like the idea of celebrity. There are kids that work for me in Karen Black that I could be working for next year. I think generating a following is too hard. We want to instigate activity, but I don't know how culty we are. I'm always surprised that people know us at all, if people like me online they end up in the band! When I first started the record companies in LA said if I looked like a regular girl I'd get a record contract. I'm glad I didn't concede because now the future is here we can be completely independent. The whole art world is changing; the systems are crumbling.

 

How have you seen the 'underground' change?

 

It's a privilege to be allowed to be an artist for so many years. Most of my friends died of AIDS in the eighties. It's so amazing to have got all these extra years. I'm not very nostalgic, I call it 'yesterbating', and can't stand people who say 'New York used to be more interesting in the eighties' - if you think that then clearly you're not paying attention now. The eighties weren't a party. It was a really difficult time, like being in Vietnam or World War One and seeing everyone get their heads blown off.

 

How important is your gay audience to you?

 

Straight people don't like me! We're a threat to straight culture and that makes people uncomfortable. When I got to New York I met Jack Smith and Quentin Crisp. The queer community never ostracised me for looking or thinking differently.

 

Your work straddles art, performance, poetry, punk and fashion, which art form are you most comfortable with?

 

I'm an availablist, someone that makes the best use of what's available to them. It also depends on money. If I don't have the money to book a recording studio, I'll draw more.

 

Do you ever take a day off from being a performance artist and do something hideously mainstream like go to Starbucks?

 

Playboy and MAC cosmetics sponsor me. Hell yeah, I can get up at 8am and go to a business meeting - I've got the outfit! And Starbucks is the only bathroom you can use in New York City.

 

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