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INTERVIEW: Meera Syal and Helen Lederer

The new stage production of cult 1960s lesbian film ‘The Killing of Sister George’ stars two brilliant actors but is it a story that needs re-telling?

Jane Czyzselska

Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:40:52 GMT | Updated 1 years today

Meera Syal didn't have any problems relating to her part as Sister George - a fictional radio character who is killed off by BBC scriptwriters. The intense paranoia familiar to most actors is all too close to home but far more than that she says, "We've all been in those self destructive relationships when you know they are slipping away, so you are more horrible to them."

 

She's referring to the abusive relationship between 'Applehurst' radio star June 'Sister George' Buckridge and her long-suffering younger partner, Alice (aka 'Childie'). "It was that bit of it that I understood, when the director (Iqbal Khan) and I talked about it; we felt there was genuine love there but it is incredibly unhealthy and it's a power struggle once sex is involved - that terrible need and loss and longing."

 

And, crucially, it's a dysfunctional relationship between two women; one of our earliest Sapphic depictions, which at the time of its movie release in 1966 split lesbian opinion. This point is not lost on Syal who says, "I completely understand where the film was coming from and how much of a bold political statement it was: [essentially] 'here we are and we're not going to apologise for it' and I can see why it's quite an important film for lots of people and why it's a piece that really divides the community too and that some feel it was giving lesbians a bad name…it can be taken in quite different ways."

 

As an asian performer Syal understands the problems inherent in the way that we universalize the experience of minority groups and that with a limited repertoire of characters people will always be disappointed in the way these characters end up being seen to 'represent' an entire community.

 

"I've been offered parts that aren't exactly PC and I've received comments such as 'oh that's what asians are like, are they?' And of course what you want to say is, 'it's what these particular ones are doing.' Why assume that everything you do becomes representative? You have to hope you keep creative, create more work and cast in an imaginative way…casting is conservative by its nature and [Sister George] is an amazing production with four amazing parts for women."

 

Helen Lederer agrees and when we talk she admits she's driving her husband's car with a hangover. "Not a good combo, is it?" How does she think the story is relevant for lesbians today? "Well, it's about power and loneliness and it's so good that it's there because it's provocative. Whether it's useful, I don't know. It gets people talking at least and in the main [theatre] remains a camp tradition of [male] gayness but I do agree that there's a particularity regarding lesbians and women in this." To say [as heterosexual playwright Frank Marcus did in 1965] that the fact that the characters were lesbians was irrelevant is disingenuous, Lederer believes. "They protest too much." 

 

Although none of the cast is gay, Syal says she got offers from women in the 1980s, "Women in feminist movement. I just didn't want to do the dropping the women thing afterwards that a lot of people did. The funny thing is though a lot of women of my generation get on better with women. I was brought up in a matriarchal community after all."

 

The cult 1966 film which was based on Marcus' play famously starred Beryl Reid as Sister George and Susannah York as her live-in lover. How did Syal want to bring something new to the production?

 

"It's easy to play [Sister George] as a wounded monster and it was really important to bring up the humanity of both people who were in love and to really humanise George. And if it opens a debate about [issues about lesbian relationships] its worth doing for that alone."

 

Until October 29 (020 7907 7092, artstheatrewestend.co.uk).

 

 

 

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