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COMMENT: The Pink List - is it still relevant?

The recent Independent on Sunday Pink List has provoked both praise and derision. Faye Davies, and Pink List judge Paris Lees exchange views

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:38:48 GMT | Updated 1 years today

Dear Paris

 

Here's my question; do we need a list of the one hundred best L.G.Bs and Ts. No, I would suggest 'we' do not, not if the 'we' in question is the readers of the Independent on Sunday. Because in many sectors of society the LGBT community has what it's always wanted, equality and tolerance. Our sexuality no longer stigmatises or marginalises us, in fact, it's not an issue at all. So why would we wish to re-establish the divide by drawing up a list of our most successful ambassadors? Of course, I'm not denying that for an awful lot of people, being LGBT makes them a candidate for discrimination and abuse and that by accentuating the achievements of our community we can inspire the victimised and educate the perpetrators. I'm just not sure a Sunday broadsheet reaches out to either group. In fact I think it's more likely to piss off a demographic that was already onside.

 

But be that as it may, the intention to inspire and celebrate is a noble enough one. Except I didn't find it inspiring, I found it confusing. 'Nominate' the IOS urged us 'the unsung heroes and heroines who make life as a lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender person better - as well as the celebrities who make the world a more entertaining place'.  Hang on, so you're pitching the pioneers against the headline grabbers. As a voter I was supposed to deliberate the virtues of Peter Tatchell (a glaring omission) against Jessie J, Gok Wan against Angela Eagle, for them to all be thrown together in one big arbitrary list.  But perhaps I'm missing the point. Perhaps it was a show of power, a gay bicep-flex. So why were the likes of Stephen Fry and Sandy Toksvig reduced to a patronising sidebar entitled 'National Treasures' as though they were prehistoric queers bumbling around in Satan's waiting room?

 

And do you know what else isn't very inspiring? 1,500 votes, in a nationwide poll published and publicised in a nationwide newspaper. The lovely Heather Peace who topped the public vote only received 255 votes and she was 'by far' the most popular. Absolutely no disrespect to Heather but that's fewer friends than I have on Facebook. The Independent on Sunday asked and the nation responded with sleepy indifference. Such a show of ambivalence would not inspire, it would disappoint.

 

But, I was reminded, it was a triumph for ethnic minorities. No, it wasn't. Look at the top fifty and tell me that's a triumph for ethnic minorities. Far more a triumph for middle-class white people. I really don't want to seem unduly negative but if something's worth doing it's worth doing properly. I appreciate the judges (nineteen apparently, eleven panellists plus eight from the paper) only had a few hours but as it was the list lacked both the right people, an overall point and based on the response rate perhaps even a serious audience. Consequently, it seriously risked doing more harm than good.

 

Naturally I expect you'll disagree with most of this but I'd be interested to hear why you think it's worthwhile?

 

Faye

 

 

Dear Faye


OK, it has its weaknesses. Peter "Where's Wally" Tatchell, for example. I put my hands up; he was such an obvious choice, I clean forgot him.

The Indy's readers won't be "pissed off" by the Pink List, or else it would never have been published. The Independent is a commercial enterprise. Even if you're right, perhaps its readers are less open-minded than you'd have us believe…

The National Treasure's category was meant to be an honour - why the negativity?

It may not have a mammoth circulation, but the Independent punches above its weight. Almost everyone in the serious media will have seen Elly Barnes standing in first place, like a triumphant priest exorcising the ghost of Section 28. Politicians saw her and teachers too. So did lesbian and gay people who don't usually buy newspapers.

Yes, it'd be great if the Daily Mail caught up with the mores of the general population rather than pandering to the bigotry of its ageing readership. But would the world would be a better place if the Pink List didn't exist? No.

So the Pink List isn't the whole solution - but what is? Like much else, it's a step in the right direction, and deserves our support.

Most of the moaners already know lots of successful queers and underestimate the importance of recognising pink achievement. But many young women will be stunned when they see all the wonderful, respected gay and bi folk out there. This is especially true for trans people, who made huge inroads this year. I remember a few years ago discovering that a trans person, Christine Burns, had been awarded an OBE. I was gob smacked, impressed and inspired to become an activist myself.

Was it a success for ethnic minorities? Depends on your perspective. While many trans people were pleased the community received some recognition, having just one trans man, out of 101 Pink Listers, could be seen as a slap in the face. But, sadly, if there are less "influential" queers from ethnic and gender minorities, that says more about the cisgender, white heterosexual orthodoxy than anything else.

The Pink List shows that it's possible to be both gay or bi AND successful - "success" which comes in many forms this year. It's not only activists who are influential. Just imagine the social shift if every gay footballer came out: they wouldn't need to become the next Clare Dimyon to make a huge difference.

Even I was surprised at the number of great, out people actively pushing for equality in their chosen fields. It's one of my few comforts when our heteronormative society starts to wear me down.

It's easy for queer media types, especially those working in gay organisations, to be blasé about the importance of this sort of thing.

But did you miss the Stonewall research that shows 65% of gay and bi schoolchildren have experienced direct bullying? Or the Trevor Project survey which estimates that gay and bi youth are up to four times more likely to attempt suicide than their heterosexual peers? Do you think those figures are lower for trans people?

Best wishes

Paris

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  • Jonie Heath - Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:11:28 GMT -

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    I just want to say that I am 100% in agreement with Paris! Jonie